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    My youngest is being bullied.

    MiniMinxy is 11 and being bullied by a 15 year old from the same school as her, sadly the same 15 year old lives but a few streets away.

    Instinct tells me to beat the living daylights out of the little sh*t common sense tells me to wait until she is 18 and no longer a minor!!

    Unfortunately the 15 year olds parent is an alcoholic who seems to have NO control what so ever over the brat. Its on its last 'chance' at School, constantly on report and getting suspended.

    I'm going to ring the School about 'it' this morning although judging by what I've heard they aren't particularly interested in the 'troublesome' pupils. The Police have been informed mainly because whilst I was two doors away last night the little sh*t forced its way into my house and tried to drag my daughter out into the street by her hair (Im really really going to kick the cr*p out of it and I have a loooooooooong memory).

    The Police seem to think its a matter for the School because they go to the same School, the fact that it forced its way into MY home and assaulted MY child is neither here nor there (I am going to trail it round by its hair whilst punching it)

    Soooooooo any advice, other than beat it up (because when it hits 18 I'AM going to do so and dont need to be advised to do so) would be much appreciated!!


    P.S If it slaps me and I stomp it into the ground, isn't that self defense?

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    A friend of mine had the same trouble! The fact is once the situation is outside of school it is a police matter, if any other person broke into your house and draged someone by their hair, then the police would have to take ot further!! I feel for your child, bullying is terrible and it sounds like she is getting it bad...
    When it happend to my friend she had to keep on and on at the police and she went to see the head of the school governers, which is often run by parents, so they may understand a little more, schools generally carn't be arrsed because it makes them look bad, try and take the issue to the next level, speak to the chair of governers and even higher if nothing is sorted, from my understanding the police have to do something, little sh't broke in2 ur house!!!! Hope that something gets sorted!!!!

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    Re: Bullying

    We have a lazy cop shop! Need I say more....

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    Minxy.
    Wait until its dark, wait until she's alone then kick the daylights out of her ( and the nightlights too if needs be) No witness, no proof. You was at home with hubby at the time and have absolutely no idea what she's on about.
    But better still, if you can get her into your house again then a couple of hard smacks ( go for the body, not the face) should do the trick. When she complains simply say she charged into your house and you was trying to remove her and in the process of self defence because she attacked you, you had no choice but to physically defend yourself. Make sure you smack her head a few times on the walls on the way out.
    My son creature was bullied by 2 morons when he was at school. It soon stopped when i got hold of them ( chased them over a field then proceeded to show them the error of their ways) Problem sorted.
    The other option is to write to your LEA explaining the situation and your disappointment at the lack of concern shown by the school, and that you will be removing your daughter until they resolve the situation. Do the same to your police Chief Constable but make sure you tell him that its an official complaint against the officers involved.
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    Be careful minxy. I'd hate to see you get into trouble.

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    The situation that you are in is aweful Minxy and my heart goes out to you! If i had a child that was being bullied i too would have to restrain myself from beating this little shite into next week and how the police fail to do anything about somebody tresspassing on your land and assulting your child is just beyond belief......How about writing this story in your local newspaper, im sure neither the school or police would want such bad publicity and this should shake them up into actualy listening and doing something about this situation......Whichever step you take, i wish you both the best of luck xx
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    Re: Bullying

    I have been reading this thread with interest. My oldest daughter was badly bullied when we lived in London (she was only 6 at the time) Every time I went to the school to complain the headmistress made all the right soothing noises, then called the mother of the other child in who promptly played the race card. "You're picking on my daughter because she's black!" This put the fear of Christ into the headmistress, who was always forced to back down - or lose her job.
    So, having gone through all the correct channels and not seeing any results, I was forced to take matters into my own hands. I had a word with the mother, who thought that she looked impressive in front of her mates, screaming at me like a fishwife in the middle of the school playground. She became a lot quiter when her eye swelled up, though.
    I was very, very lucky to get off with an official caution and no court appearance.
    Although I understand how you feel Minxy, I really wouldn't advise it - the 3 weeks I spent sh***ing bricks because I thought I was going to go to jail were the worst of my life!
    Having said that, the police have behaved disgracefully. Have you thought of pressing charges for breaking and entering? I agree with Missy, when the last bell goes at 3.30 it is no longer the responsibility of the school to control their pupils behaviour (not that the teachers dare go near any of the little bu**ers anyway, for fear of a court case)You will probably find that the police were close to the end of their shift and really didn't fancy the extra work. I hope you got their numbers so that when you talk to their boss you can praise the service you received from them...

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    Re: Bullying

    Minxy I'm usually the voice of reason

    Why not go round to her house, smile a lot, say a few nice things so the neighbours can here then lean in close and tell her you know where she lives and that sh*t does indeed burn..... Walk away just as 2 large friends of yours walk down her path and hand her a smoke detector and batteries and tell her if she ever goes near MiniMinx again she'll be needing these..... As these chaps leave have a few little types go up to her and just remind her that she might see Miniminx alone from time to time, but she's never far from friends, for good measure have one of them hold her hand tight whilst saying these things..... Any more you can muster along to remind her of the strength of numbers, the better..... As to kicking the sh*t out of her, Yip! At every possible opportunity, just make sure you're screaming 'STOP THIEF!' as she tries to 'snatch' your handbag.....

    Can't think of anything else yet, oh you could pay to have her thumped every day for a few weeks, I find no matter how big the bully, there's bigger around the corner.

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    Re: Bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by lairdx
    Be careful minxy. I'd hate to see you get into trouble.
    I will be careful, thank you for your concern! xxx

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    Re: Bullying

    Unfortunately I live in area that the police do not run, I have to be very very careful whose toes I stand on!!

    Im going with the School and Police Route, for the time being.

    Thank you for the advice ladies and gents its good to have some support and understanding!

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    Minxy, I had the same problem, I know a llittle about how the Police system works on this, was also p*ssed off with the school (became a school governor to bite the school in the arrse) pm me if you need help with the system
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    Re: Bullying

    Minxy, my 6 year old is currently being bullied. As we moved only a few months back he is still the new boy and has only 3 kids who will play with him. The others pick on him cos he doesn't have a dad (DH is in sandpit but the other kids don't get this and think he has gone), they don't let him play on certain things at break and they have a few times smacked him one then run crying to teacher when DS retaliated (he prob started a few too though).
    It is horrid to see your baby however old they are being mistreated like this and my heart goes out to you. I think the others a right in saying you should press charges for b&e but I would advise against giving her a slap or such. I would imagine that this girl gets hit by her alcoholic parent and so see's it as what is done and if you retaliate it will re-inforce her thinking. Are social involved with this family? If not they bloody well should be :evil:

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    Re: Bullying

    Update:

    Evil child went into School (she is currently on study leave due to exam week) and was busy telling anyone who would listen what she was going to do to miniminxy. Miniminxy's head of year was informed and evil child was pulled and proceeded to tell teacher what she was going to do to miniminxy.

    School phoned me to tell me what had happened I phoned Police and read them the riot act :lol: as you do!!

    The Police were great they sent a car out sometime later to take a statement of Miniminxy. I actually knew one of the Coppers quite well (dated his boss for sometime, whole different story will post on that one later) so inbetween, catching up, taking statements, swopping songs via blue tooth and taking the piss out of each other we decided that evil child should be frightened by the wrath of the law into stopping her horrid behaviour!

    The Coppers went round her house and read her the riot act, gave her the old she WILL take you to Court, you WILL get a record this will effect you for the REST OF YOUR LIFE routinue bleh bleh, they came back and reported evil child was snivelling and apologising and would be apologising to the school and Miniminxy the following day. Evil child DID apologise and so far all has been quiet.

    Sooooooooo fingers crossed things will be quiet for a wee while, sadly I don't believe this is the end to the tale that evil little harridan quite clearly doesn't learn from her mistakes and seems to think that she is invincible, I dont think she has taken into account that at the age of 15 she is now culpable in the eyes of the law. Iam not one to let things drop soooooooo should she resume her antics she will find herself in trouble be it by myself taking a civil action against her OR informing the police of the law (cause you have to sometimes) and having her criminally charged!!

    Some of you have mentioned Social Services, yes Im led to believe they are aware of the home situation, they will have now been informed of the recent events along with the juvenile liason officer, both Im assuming by now will have paid evil child a visit!!

    Will keep you posted!!!

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    Fingers crossed for you and I hope social do their job

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    Hoping that the evil one has learned something and stays away from miniminxy...and that she gets the help she needs. Good for you Minxy for taking the bull by the horns so to speak.

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    Firstly, apologies to Minxy for not getting back to you! (Been busy) You need to look up on web local LEA (Local Education Authority) head for area, look up MP for that ward, look up Education Minister and get details printed off about all. Ring school and ask for full list of Governors with contact details and ask for correct address for Head Teacher (as this is the official process) as you have a complaint. You need to check OFSTED reports for school, again, print off (you can normally find all of this info on local Council website). You need to speak to Police about having an harrassment order being served on the offending "child"(this is normallly the first step torwards an anti social behaviour contract or an ASBO) it means they sign a letter/order in front of parents promising to be good, AND ask for which address complaints should be addesssed to regarding non compliance (usually gives them a little nudge). Whilst on Council web, look up anti social behaviour, there are departments for this that WILL help whether private or Council tenants) Make appointment to see year head or Head Teacher, have printed documents in hand, dont shout at them but be firm in using the information that you have in your hands that YOU WILL contact all of the Government bodies concerned as you feel that the school are in breach of duty of care. The school will plop pants and race to make miniminxy and all of you reading this forum that have children that are having problems happy as they dont want poor school reports. I know this is a bad system, but I cant change it on my own although I am trying. I hope this helps :?
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    Re: Bullying

    Unfortunately, in this day and age there is nothing called self defense! you would get put away, which isnt good.

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    Re: Bullying

    Rubbish,

    When some self rightous t**t called me a nigger and came for me I stamped on his foot, punched him in the stomach and cracked him one on the nose ... I told the police what happened and had plenty of witness that heard him call me a nigger. I 'got away' with it because I was defending myself ...

    Quote Originally Posted by SFK_2006
    Unfortunately, in this day and age there is nothing called self defense! you would get put away, which isnt good.

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    Re: Bullying

    Whilst there is absolutely no excuse for bullying at all and this childs behaviour was completely unacceptable I do know from past experience that most bullies are children that are crying out for help and take their anger and frustration out on their peers, you say there is alcholism at her home which is a huge thing for a teenager to deal with. She is probably very jealous of your miniminx and of the home life and relationship she has with you. I think its very sad when children have to deal with these kind of problems at home as they really don't know how to cope and behave probably in a way that is used at home, I hope for this childs sake social services help her and sort her home life out.

    Like I said I am not condoning this behavior in any way shape or form I am just saying that there is usually a very sad reason behind it.

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    Re: Bullying

    most bullies are children that are crying out for help
    Nonsense, the only thing she's crying out for is a bloody good walloping. :twisted:
    She'll soon learn the error of her ways once she's had a few thrashings.
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