Thread: Men have 100% responsibility for their children

Originally Posted by squirrel_pigeon

Ah, ex-baiting. How fun. Not.

Bugger, I forgot who SF is .. must keep brain cell functioning!

Originally Posted by Steven Feeney

At the time I conceived my daughter I was in a happy, stable relationship with a woman who agreed to bear the brunt of the child rearing whilst I worked.

Bloody hell Steven! You're clever. Have you informed the BMC that male conception is possible?!

Re: 100% responsibility

The point is this that both mother and fathers are 100% responsible for your children, even when you are not with them. Both parent's duty is a 100%

It is the 100% responsibility of both parents to ensure that the child's best interest are maintained. Ultimately it is about working out what is in the best interest for your children. It often requires a huge amount of emotional intelligence and for the parents to retain an amicable dialogue despite their emotional feelings.

This is easier said then done. And also I appreciate that women who have been subjected to abuse need to protect themselves and their children. It is not easy. But the point that I was trying to make is that both parents are 100% responsible.

Oh feck off AMMM. We can manage without you. See? Conversation without feminist extremism.
Toodle pip. Tally ho.

Originally Posted by Steven Feeney

The system is clearly broken but any attempt at providing more rights for mothers without parity for fathers is ridiculous. The system is so heavily weighted in favour of females in Child Residency and Divorce it is completely nonsensical.

I pay for my daughter every month (and BUPA healthcare) and I will pay for my second child when it arrives but in the meantime my ex can block contact, make it difficult, refuse to speak to me unless through a solicitor and because I work and she does not she has the option to send the bill to me. :-S

The whole system is a joke and solicitors know it which is why when I contacted one his first response was "you have no rights, you are a male in the UK."

I am by no means stupid, I have an intelligent job and just been accepted to Warwick to study Law for this very reason but when you cut through the hyperbole a father has to fight tooth and nail for any sort of access and a female can use a myriad of ways to make it almost impossible.

Like the female rights thread - the minority of your sex have tarnished the majority and now some males think what is the use. An officer took the step of walking away from his children because his ex made it so difficult every single week to see them and eventually replaced him with a new Dad.

A situation I now find myself in as well.

I agree with this as a female, because I've seen what my OH's ex has done to her kids emotional well being and how she has stopped contact.

Every time she speaks to a new person, she invents a new claim against him and the ironic thing is, it's documented and believed, even though he's provided evidence of her abuse of him, she's believed, he's not.

Every claim she makes, he's offered to provide proof that it's untrue, but the system automatically believes the person with the custody and that's more often than not the female.

I find myself wanting to support the Fathers for justice because it took a child agency 4 months from when contact was stopped to even talk to the children about their wants, and get this for 4 months, she could say what ever she liked to the kids... and lo and behold, some of them resented their father for stopping contact and wouldn't talk to the child agency because they'd been told not to say anything by the mum and so it was deemed that he should continue to have no contact, while they worked it all out... fuelling the cycle.

Any mother that uses children like that, should have them removed, the emotional troubles that brings to the children is evil beyond belief, but the current system supports and allows this to happen.

Dad's aren't perfect, but there are evil mothers out there who are all out for vengence and unfortunately, the system supports them.

Originally Posted by bodger

No, I'm not. But a good solicitor worth his/her salt will tell them that they're being unreasonable. And with a bit of luck refer them to mediation.

Mediation generally sides with the custodian, especially when they make outrageous claims against the other party, because they don't need to be backed up with evidence.

Throw enough mud and it sticks..... especially if one side is "playing fair"

No parent, on any terms, needs to use their kids as a play off....................


latte, anyone?

Originally Posted by squirrel_pigeon

Not yet - not much room for paying into a pension when there's 4 of us surviving on £13k. When we have some money spare, it's definitely on the list to do. I aim to be back in work within the next 5 years though so I'll be able to sort myself out without too much trouble.

SP

Just a note to say that his pay should go up at 26 weeks or completion of Phase 2, if that helps. You can see the pay scale here:

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/Careers/...es/CNR/Pay.pdf

Originally Posted by Josephine

No parent, on any terms, needs to use their kids as a play off....................


latte, anyone?

I'll have a Chai tea (latte) please, coffee makes me physically sick

Originally Posted by soleil

SP

Just a note to say that his pay should go up at 26 weeks or completion of Phase 2, if that helps. You can see the pay scale here:

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/Careers/...es/CNR/Pay.pdf

It's going up at the end of this month but the HB will go down at the same time so believe it or not, we actually work out at the grand total of £20 a month better off lol. We knew it'd be tight for the first few years and I'm the budget queen so we're not doing too badly really but definitely no room for a pension for me at the moment

Originally Posted by Feisty one

I agree with this as a female, because I've seen what my OH's ex has done to her kids emotional well being and how she has stopped contact.

Every time she speaks to a new person, she invents a new claim against him and the ironic thing is, it's documented and believed, even though he's provided evidence of her abuse of him, she's believed, he's not.

Every claim she makes, he's offered to provide proof that it's untrue, but the system automatically believes the person with the custody and that's more often than not the female.

I find myself wanting to support the Fathers for justice because it took a child agency 4 months from when contact was stopped to even talk to the children about their wants, and get this for 4 months, she could say what ever she liked to the kids... and lo and behold, some of them resented their father for stopping contact and wouldn't talk to the child agency because they'd been told not to say anything by the mum and so it was deemed that he should continue to have no contact, while they worked it all out... fuelling the cycle.

Any mother that uses children like that, should have them removed, the emotional troubles that brings to the children is evil beyond belief, but the current system supports and allows this to happen.

Dad's aren't perfect, but there are evil mothers out there who are all out for vengence and unfortunately, the system supports them.

You need to tell the SS that she bites the kids when they are naughty.

Originally Posted by bodger

Oh feck off AMMM. We can manage without you. See? Conversation without feminist extremism.
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