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    I am proud to be a feminist


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    Feminist bat on til the cows come home, think they have a godly right to moan the ass off the nearest man and don't get me started on burning bras!

    Females carry babies, we give birth to them, we feed them from our bodies...........if you have to bleat about being superior, then you really don't have a clue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Josephine View Post
    Feminist bat on til the cows come home, think they have a godly right to moan the ass off the nearest man and don't get me started on burning bras!

    Females carry babies, we give birth to them, we feed them from our bodies...........if you have to bleat about being superior, then you really don't have a clue
    Interesting, there was never a burnt bra - a female journalist wrote this about a protest against the Miss World beauty pageant and it stuck and labelled the whole movement. It's been very unfortunate. I am reading this great book

    The Amazing Journey of American Women from 1960 to the Present - When Everything Changed by Gail Collins.

    The feminist movement on some level was born out of the civil rights movement. Yes, it's true that women were subjugated in the segregated states of the US - but there was white women, black men and then black women. They were that stalwarts of the feminist movement because they were bottom of the food chain. They had everything to fight for.

    I just received this comment on my blog:

    "Listen love, I suggest you just sit back and count yourself lucky you don’t live in an Islamic society that has no respect for the female race. It’s very equal nowadays in Britain so stop complaining and enjoy what you have."

    If you think that women are inferior, men are superior, should be paid more and should tell women what to do then you are not a feminist.

    If you think men and women are equal and that should be paid the same money for doing the same job then you are a feminist.

    I think feminism has a terrible reputation and that is why women are ashamed of it.

    I think it's important for women to protect their interests - especially as it is unlikely we will receive a state pension. Funnily, enough a husband is not a pension. I have no pension and two kids, who depend on me for their future and I want to deliver it for them.

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    Well f**k me sideways, I just agreed with something AMMM wrote. I'm off for a lie down in a darkened room.
    I know I'm in my own little world, but it's ok. They know me here.

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    Unlikely to receive a state pension? Have I missed something?

    Not so sure believing in equal pay and equal opportunity makes me a feminist. My OH believes in that too. Does that make him a feminist? I thought that just makes him, and me, reasonable human beings.

    I'm not ashamed of feminism, just tired of people categorising folk.
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    I think it does make you both feminists.

    Here is an article written by a fella - called Why I am a male feminist:

    Why I Am a Male Feminist

    here's a little wiki:

    Feminism is a collection of movements aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights and equal opportunities for women.[1][2][3] Its concepts overlap with those of women's rights. Feminism is mainly focused on women's issues, but because feminism seeks gender equality, some feminists argue that men's liberation is therefore a necessary part of feminism, and that men are also harmed by sexism and gender roles. Feminists are "person[s] whose beliefs and behavior[s] are based on feminism.

    Alas White Rose the world isn't as reasonable as you and people have to fight for their rights otherwise they don't get them. Have you seen Made in Dagenham.

    The state pension is not a given anymore - it could become income support.

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    I expect to be paid the same as a bloke if I do the same job. I expect, if I go out to work for the same number of hours in the day, husband-thing to pull his weight so far as housework goes. But, I expect a bloke to hold the door open for me (although I'd do the same for him 'cos I'm not an ignorant sod) and I expect a bloke to hold my coat for me to put it on, let me go through a door before him and carry my heavy bags. It's just the way I was brought up; what I witnessed when I was a child and it's stuck. I suppose that makes me a fair weather feminist. Ah, well.

    I hate that word though. 'Feminist'. It conjures up visions of hairy armpits and saggy tits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amodernmilitarymother View Post
    I just received this comment on my blog:

    "Listen love, I suggest you just sit back and count yourself lucky you don’t live in an Islamic society that has no respect for the female race. It’s very equal nowadays in Britain so stop complaining and enjoy what you have."
    The moment somebody, male or female, utters the words "listen love . . .' to me it has the magical effect of me just switching off. Amazing!
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    Everyone should read a book called The Women's Room by Marilyn French. You will realise you are a feminist without even knowing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodger View Post
    The moment somebody, male or female, utters the words "listen love . . .' to me it has the magical effect of me just switching off. Amazing!
    I just laughed - I assumed he was taking the piss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moomin View Post
    Everyone should read a book called The Women's Room by Marilyn French. You will realise you are a feminist without even knowing it.
    I keep meaning to get it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodger View Post
    I expect to be paid the same as a bloke if I do the same job. I expect, if I go out to work for the same number of hours in the day, husband-thing to pull his weight so far as housework goes. But, I expect a bloke to hold the door open for me (although I'd do the same for him 'cos I'm not an ignorant sod) and I expect a bloke to hold my coat for me to put it on, let me go through a door before him and carry my heavy bags. It's just the way I was brought up; what I witnessed when I was a child and it's stuck. I suppose that makes me a fair weather feminist. Ah, well.

    I hate that word though. 'Feminist'. It conjures up visions of hairy armpits and saggy tits.
    I think chivalry isn't necessary anti-feminist. I think feminism has a bad rep - why would being a feminist be connected with hairyness and sagging tits. Or maybe it's that I am about to hit 40 and I want to stop waxing and I can't afford a boob job!

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    That poster has a point though, with the other worlds
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    I've recently read 'How to Be a Woman" by Caitlin Moran, she has a chapter in it call "I am a Feminist" I can't paraphrase or sum up what she writes, as not really got the skill. However after reading I'm happy to shout "I am a Feminist".
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    Happy as i am, don't need a title
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    Ah well, AMMM. Call us what you will if it puts things into neat boxes for you. You've jumped a long way from my comment of being reasonable rather than a social description to fighting for rights. You don't have to be socially stereotypically categorised into sterile terminology to stand up for a right. That's idle shorthand that the mass media employs.

    Like that comment about respect towards women in Islamic society. Bit of a sweeping statement there. There's a big difference between a patriarchal political system or absolute monarchy and Islam itself. (good on the Commonwealth for agreeing the new rules on succession, by the way).

    Bodger, it'll be a sad day when people in Yorkshire can't say "love" as a means to address a lady. I blame southerners and lefty do-gooders for taking it the wrong way. Derbyshire blokes can't call their ladies "duck" anymore because people who label themselves "feminists" don't like it. Perhaps the "feminist" blokes will start getting upperty at being called "lad" because it demeans their manliness
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteRose View Post
    Bodger, it'll be a sad day when people in Yorkshire can't say "love" as a means to address a lady.
    Oi! I'm a Yorkshire-ite and proud of it (although I refuse to go back 'cos the weather's heaps better darn sarf). I don't have a problem with the 'love' bit, just the 'listen'. Anyone who says 'listen' at the beginning of a sentence is asking me to pin my ears back so they can be patronising. And they can feck right off. Hey, is that that new fangled feministicism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bodger View Post
    I expect to be paid the same as a bloke if I do the same job. I expect, if I go out to work for the same number of hours in the day, husband-thing to pull his weight so far as housework goes. But, I expect a bloke to hold the door open for me (although I'd do the same for him 'cos I'm not an ignorant sod) and I expect a bloke to hold my coat for me to put it on, let me go through a door before him and carry my heavy bags. It's just the way I was brought up; what I witnessed when I was a child and it's stuck. I suppose that makes me a fair weather feminist. Ah, well.

    I hate that word though. 'Feminist'. It conjures up visions of hairy armpits and saggy tits.
    What Bodger said, pretty much word for word

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodger View Post
    Oi! I'm a Yorkshire-ite and proud of it (although I refuse to go back 'cos the weather's heaps better darn sarf). I don't have a problem with the 'love' bit, just the 'listen'. Anyone who says 'listen' at the beginning of a sentence is asking me to pin my ears back so they can be patronising. And they can feck right off. Hey, is that that new fangled feministicism?
    I have much the same feelings towards "look" at the start of a sentence. New Labour started that and now every politician seems to be at it. I find it demeaning.
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    you know what, if i could, i would love to be in the kitchen, cooking/baking, for a loving husband. Making the house look nice, work wise...........as long as a wage covered me and my boys to live, then i have no complaints.

    My family are buggered, being the only southern sector in our blood, everyone else is calling women duck, duckie or hen

    My fav saying at the start of a conversation goes like this 'I don't mean to offend but........'
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