Thread: I am proud to be a feminist

Right. I've decided to become a feminist. Mr B refused to carry me home last night. I'll learn the bugger. He can knit his own yoghurt from now on.

Originally Posted by blessed_baby_cakes

I wonder if the need to stand up and demand to be called a feminist comes from a deep seated sense that at some point in your life, recent or past, you have looked and found you have been lacking in the equality of a male counterpart through your own fault, by choice, design, or neglect on ones own part, and are now trying to assert yourself too much?

Just a thought really.

Beebs x

Moot point - I don't demand to be called a 'feminist' I said I was proud to say I was one. I don't think that the rights of women should be at the detriment of male rights and/or human rights. Yes, I have experienced sexism in life and in the work place - I didn't even recognise it at first because I assumed equality. Is it about blame and fault? I don't see it like that.

I see inbalances that I would like to change that are not my fault - I don't see it as my fault that we live in a patriachial society. I don't think the witch hunts of the 1500s were my fault. I am just raising some issues on a forum, chewing the fat, seeing what is the lay of the land. What I see mainly is misogyny from both genders. I find that interesting.

What I really want like I said is for childcare to be tax deductable for everyone.

Everyone uses their sex to their advantage if they can it's the way of the world.
Example
I was working in a bar aged 18. Size 6 with DD boobs (oh god those were the days!!!!) My uniform consisted of a tight low cut top and trousers. My 22 year old male workmates outfit was trousers and a loose fitting t.shirt. Now I could have bleated that it was sexist expecting me to wear figure hugging clothes and not the loose more comfortable t.shirt that he was. But at the end of our shift I took home triple the tips he did. So who is at the disadvantage there? Am I being exploited as a woman by being put in an outfit that would objectify me or is he at a disadvantage because my uniform enables me to earn more than he does?

For every complain a woman has you will always find a male flip side.

As for 'I gave myself away too easily' in reference to your marriage, are you serious? When I got married I didn't 'give myself away' at all. I am still very much myself in every way, I just agreed to share my life with someone else, my husband-my PARTNER in life.

I don't know if I'm a feminist, an equalist (is that a word?) or what. I live my life being me and I don't know how to be anything other than that.

Originally Posted by Special_Tree

Everyone uses their sex to their advantage if they can it's the way of the world.
Example
I was working in a bar aged 18. Size 6 with DD boobs (oh god those were the days!!!!) My uniform consisted of a tight low cut top and trousers. My 22 year old male workmates outfit was trousers and a loose fitting t.shirt. Now I could have bleated that it was sexist expecting me to wear figure hugging clothes and not the loose more comfortable t.shirt that he was. But at the end of our shift I took home triple the tips he did. So who is at the disadvantage there? Am I being exploited as a woman by being put in an outfit that would objectify me or is he at a disadvantage because my uniform enables me to earn more than he does?

For every complain a woman has you will always find a male flip side.

As for 'I gave myself away too easily' in reference to your marriage, are you serious? When I got married I didn't 'give myself away' at all. I am still very much myself in every way, I just agreed to share my life with someone else, my husband-my PARTNER in life.

I don't know if I'm a feminist, an equalist (is that a word?) or what. I live my life being me and I don't know how to be anything other than that.

Yes, of course. Survival of the fittest, etc. I am not naive or so idealist that I don't work the human system if needs be.

I am afraid, I did give myself away. But hindsight is a marvellous thing and we can only learn and move forwards. I should never have got married. I was just playing a game. I never dreamed of my wedding day and had no idea what to do for it. I just made it up as I went along. If OH hadn't been in the military I would never have got married. I wanted love and monogamy but not the licence. I should have thought about it more carefully. I am quite spontaneous though and so just roll with the cards as they are dealt.

I had just broken my leg - clean snapped my fibula and my tibia. As a result of a misguided daliance with a bloke - it's complicated and the leg break was an unfortunate boating accident but the consequences for me were far reaching. I couldn't walk for a year. It f*cked me up because I felt very vulnerable and exposed. I was freelancing at the time and everything imploded.

Had to skip the last three pages to put my point on things.

I am part of the Ainsley Hayes style of thinking, which states that as long as PEOPLE have equal rights, equal pay, etc, then as a female it is highly irritating to have a bunch of white middle class men pass laws that women are equal to men. We now have laws that state that. Move on!

If a person can do a job to a certain level then they should be recognised and paid the suitable wage END of.

Second point is that people are NOT equal. Obviously in terms of ability for a certain job perhaps it only requires a certain academic skill, but men and woman are different. Emotionally, mentally, physically. DO I think it is right that people are treated badly because of this? No! Do I think that people should recognise the differences in others and focus on their strengths? Then yes.

I am not a man, I never will be a man and I am proud of the abilities that make me a woman. I am proud to be a woman. I like men to be men, not muted little eunuchs who are frightened to pull out a chair for me to sit on for fear of being reprimanded for patronising behaviour!

Equality is good, otherwise anything that pulls out a certain faction of society to give them special dispensations because they are not deemed as good as the rest of us is quite frankly patronising!

And I have just found the clips....

Ainsley Hayes on the Equal Rights Amendment - YouTube

Ainsley Hayes on Feminism - The West Wing - YouTube

Enjoy!

Like hell am I burning my bras! Do you know how much it costs, to buy slings, these days???

I think the saddest thing about feminism is that although it was created to abolish stereotypical views of women it actually created so many more......

TLC x

I read that as Ainsley Herriot so I was very confused!

Originally Posted by Tootsie_Le_Coq

I think the saddest thing about feminism is that although it was created to abolish stereotypical views of women it actually created so many more......

TLC x

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