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Discuss Here's one for you. MQ question. in Patch and Pads on Rear Party; Right I have a question that some of you more knowledgeable bods might have an answer to. We live in Grrrrrrrrrrrrmany, hubby is going on tour in July (yup they've kindly moved it so he's ...
  
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    Here's one for you. MQ question.

    Right I have a question that some of you more knowledgeable bods might have an answer to.

    We live in Grrrrrrrrrrrrmany, hubby is going on tour in July (yup they've kindly moved it so he's away Xmas ), and I was planning to spend a large chunk of the tour with my family back in the UK.

    What is the longest period of time I can spend away from the MQ without incurring losses to LOA? And is there a timeframe that I have to be back in the MQ before leaving for another stretch of time?

    I want to do everything by the book, but need to know what the book says in order to do so.

    Any help, or links to info would be helpful, thanks in advance.

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    Re: Here's one for you. MQ question.

    Every tour that Mr B has had has covered Christmas. It's a bloody conspiracy I tells ye!

    To be honest, I'd go to the housing bods and get chapter and verse from them, from the horses mouth. Cover all bases. I know it's not really a long period of time you get to be away before LOA stops and then you've got the threat of them turfing you out of the quarter to worry about too. And you can guarantee that someone with quarter envy will try and get one over on you to get their sticky mitts on your house!

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    Re: Here's one for you. MQ question.

    Hi,

    I am almost 100% certain it is 2 weeks, because your LOA is a living allowance for being away from the UK and as such the MOD feels that the max is 2 weeks because that is the usual amount of summer/xmas leave personnel usually take.

    If you have access or your hubby does to Army net there is a Allowances doc under the library section which details every allowance available and when it is not payable.

    Hope this is of help

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    Re: Here's one for you. MQ question.

    We have been told by our welfare that they are not interested in stopping your LOA, they just want to know numbers to be able to contact you on in an emergency. Have never had DH away long enough to need to go back to the UK without him and risk losing the LOA so i'm afraid I can't help with that.

    I would ask my UWO tho



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    Re: Here's one for you. MQ question.

    Quote Originally Posted by bonniebeth
    We have been told by our welfare that they are not interested in stopping your LOA,
    They might not be but I can lay money on it that the RAO will!!

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    Re: Here's one for you. MQ question.

    I can't fid it on armynet, but I am sure it is 2 weeks.
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    Re: Here's one for you. MQ question.

    Quote Originally Posted by bodger

    They might not be but I can lay money on it that the RAO will!!
    So do I need to notify them before I make any planned trips? What does ROA stand for? Does that mean that I'll have people checking up on me whilst he is away?

    I did look on Armynet last night but couldn't find any thing specific, it was very vague.

    Sorry for all the questions.

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    Re: Here's one for you. MQ question.

    RAO is the Regimental Admin Officer. This is only the way I see it, others will have a more specific and scientific explanation, but I view him as the Unit accountant effectively. He's got a lump of money to spend and that includes all the salaries and the LOA. And from the RAO's I know if he can save some cash legitimately he will!

    I'm not sure about informing him, but if you willingly go over the allowed period away and aren't entitled to LOA any more then I'd make sure I let him know. It saves him discovering it and then backdating it all. I shouldn't think he'd be spying on you though!

    But going back to the 14 days away and LOA stopping thing, we went away for 4 weeks (at least) on leave and it was never stopped. It wasn't Germany though.

    Best bit of advice has to be to speak to the UWO though I think. See what they do where you are.

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    Re: Here's one for you. MQ question.

    Sammi, hubby said that he THINKS that it's 31 days when LOA stops but he's not sure.

    We didn't "advise" anyone when we weren't at our MQ and travelled back and forward. We didn't get LOA, though, so it's slightly different

    Hubby said that they cannot take your quarter away when your hubby is on tour, whether you are there or not. You're not relinquishing the quarter for any reason and your husband, as a married man with child (just putting it very plainly as they would) is entitled to a quarter whether you are in the property or not.

    They can't take the quarter off him - end of - no matter where YOU are. He's a married soldier and entitled to the quarter. Depends how arsey the RAO is and whether he needs to talk it over with him first.

    From an official point of view, they should NOT take the quarter off you. The LOA, though, is a different story and I've no idea how that works.
    Hope that helps?

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    Re: Here's one for you. MQ question.

    Take a look at JSP 464 pt2 Chapter 6 Section 1 paragraph 0610 its on ArmyNET. If you plan to be away for longer than 3 weeks you need to advise the Housing Office.

    Its really important that you make sure your Welfare Office know where you are all times during the tour too.

    With LOA have a look at JSP 752 Chapter 6 Section 1 paragraph 06.0108e "Absence Deduction" It dosent say when this starts so i would say as soon as you leave the LOA area. You should get a brief from the RAO about all this sort of thing before he goes.

    Hope it helps

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    Re: Here's one for you. MQ question.

    Had a wife meeting not long ago as my hubby left today for the sandy place, am in Germany too, and the RAO said it was 61 days or more before LOA is looked at and isn't generally stopped but put down to, I think he said about 35%, but that you should always inform them of long stays away for contact info etc, plus if you want to claim the flight back they need to know anyway. I'm going back to the UK at the end of July and am going to stay for 4 weeks. Hope it helps xx

    edited to hope instesd of hop!!!

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    Re: Here's one for you. MQ question.

    I was sure we were told 2 weeks when they did our briefing, maybe they did say 2 months, or maybe they are just tight here.

    Sammi do you want me to ask the RAO here?
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    Sorry i know this is a relatively old thread but (long story cut short!) I was informed by the clerks here that if you are receiving LOA for living out of the UK and your husband gets LOA for wherever he is, your LOA stops the day you leave the country. Had quite a long ''discussion'' over this and the clerks said the rules have always been the same. My hubby is in Canada at the min and i stand to lose the German LOA if i go home to my family. There's a lady here that went home for 30 days whilst her husband is in the Falklands, thought she was doing the right thing by explaining she went over by a few days in the UK and she was backdated and made to pay back all the LOA from the day she left Germany.

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    'Fraid so. We were overseas receiving LOA, we left camp for a 3 week holiday (still in the same country) and dropped the LOA.

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    Jeez, then I owe the RAO a fair bit of money over the three years we were there. Oooops :$

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