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    Now I know there is the official line on facebook and other social media, but I have a dilemma.

    A friend of ours who's OH is in the sandy place with mine, keeps putting on Facebook how many sleeps there are left till R&R. Now I am fairly certain that the taliban couldn't care less how many sleeps till some random bloke goes on R&R, but I've heard you're not meant to do that? Should I tell her or am I being pedantic?

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    I wouldn't do it, but so long as she's not broadcasting where he is and where he's going to it should be OK. And anyway, Crab Air will make sure that he doesn't arrive when he's supposed to. Bless their double bluffing little hearts.

    *Edit* She might want to make sure she's got her settings set at 'high' though.
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    Maybe they couldn't care less about one random bloke but I'm sure they care about an aircraft full of random blokes. She needs to be a shade more careful about what she posts. Is her FB quite secure or can any Tom, Dick or Harry see her wall etc?
    I can't decide whether to be a good example or a horrible warning

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    not only does a certain wife post when her husband is home, but also post on other wives statuses "oh, your hubby will be home on this and that date , aren't you excited", when the wives are really careful what they are putting on their stauses...........unfeckingbelievable really

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    time to rip her face off on FB maybe??
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbird67 View Post
    time to rip her face off on FB maybe??
    there's more painful ways

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    Now if she wrote anything on my facebook about our R&R she'd be in big trouble. I may have a quiet word with her, it's up to her what she writes but if she's putting other guys on the same plane at risk then she needs telling. She's a sensitive soul and her boyfriend is a very junior officer on his first deployment, so I might pass the buck to another wife who's hubby is on his 6th tour and she's more tactful than me! I don't know why her boyfriend doesn't tell her, mine would not be impressed I did the same.

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    Oh and I'm not sure of her fb security settings, I'll check from someone else's account to see if they can see her posts. Apparently there was one who posted her boyfriends BFPO address with his name number and pb. I don't know her but one of the other girls went mental and she's now gone off facebook completely.

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    I know the answer to this one....

    No, never divulge homecoming or RnR countdowns on the social media where your name or personal details are known, however high the security settings.

    All it takes is a friend to comment, then a friend of the friend can see it, and if this third person has lower settings or are more slap happy with their information, you may as well send the bad guys a postcard.

    Poke this person in the eye Lilly and tell them to stop it!
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    I shall commence eye poking!

    On a similar note, what's the deal with personal email accounts like hotmail and gmail? We discuss stuff on there that details locations etc, but OH doesn't seem to bother and he has a job role where he's quite hot on that sort of thing.

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    Well, technically you should only send unclassified information, so nothing that gives away dates or locations where someone could put the details together. That said, personal email is relatively secure, and far more secure than FB, but I still wouldn't give away too much information.

    Both of you should regularly change your email passwords, and use characters (, , etc) as well as letters and numbers.
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    Thanks. I change my password regularly anyway due to my job but I'll let him know to do the same. We're not exactly exchanging classed info but it's definitely stuff I wouldn't put on fb, and names and locations are talked about. It is something I've wondered about over the weeks, but he likes to keep me abreast of where he's going to be. Maybe I'll set up a dummy account too just for his emails so that if they hack mine they can't get my address etc (from receipts from amazon etc)

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    If an official document contained details of personnel and places then it it likely it would carry a protective marking of at least PROTECT therefore that same information shouldn't be transmitted over something as insecure as Hotmail/G mail; as WR says anything sent by that means should be unclassified.
    I can't decide whether to be a good example or a horrible warning

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    Ah I see. How about ebluey? Those are the most secure right? I thought I was quite careful but obviously less so than I thought.

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    Is it time to perhaps to return to the days of the posters along the lines of Loose Lips Sink Ships, but updated for a social media generation?
    Gobby Wives costs Lives perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tootsie_Le_Coq View Post
    Is it time to perhaps to return to the days of the posters along the lines of Loose Lips Sink Ships, but updated for a social media generation?
    Gobby Wives costs Lives perhaps?

    TLC x
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    They have been pushing the "Think Before You Share" campaign this last year but it doesn't seem to have worked if the lads OH did his training are anything to go by. One of them has his fb profile open for all to see, is on his first deployment and has been posting updates on his wall as to where he has been surfacing...

    If the serving person themselves, having sat through multiple lectures about this sort of thing don't take it seriously, is it surprising that wives and girlfriends struggle?

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    I've banged onto my staff about Facebook security til I'm blue in the face and I'm sure they all think I'm talking out of my arse.....everyone thinks it'll never happen to them but for one of my lot it did and she was tracked down and threatened on more than one occasion by someone she'd had cause to deal with at work. She has now tightened up her security settings and gets what I've been waffling on about.....as for the rest, well, I give up!!

    Going back to your question though Lily, eblueys are pretty secure (until they become a physical thing and then they are as secure as any other bit of paper) and TBH, whilst it's good to feel like he's including you and keeping you up to date with the things that are going on with him, does he need to give you the actual details and do you really need to know? Just a thought.
    I can't decide whether to be a good example or a horrible warning

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    I quite agree, there's probably stuff I don't need to know. it's mainly telling me where he's going to be so that I know where to address post as he moves every week or so. I realise this isn't of utmost importance and that the mail would probably get to him eventually anyway.
    He also tells me stuff because I'm a nosy Parker and I want to know how the lads I know are getting on. Again, not very important. I just thought we were being relatively safe. Lots of our communication is done by ebluey as it is, so I'll just keep in mind that's most secure and keep my gossiping to a minimum!

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    I remember when my ex did herrick way back when. All wives and partners were invited to attend a briefing and in it. it was made crystal clear what you should and shouldn't be doing. It was before the days of facebook really (remember SP's thread about feeling old...right there!) so we were talking more about MSN and phone calls. The giving of ANY dates and/or locations was a no go unless it was coded. I remember my mates ex (fella at the time) had the most complicated codes. She used to have to sit with a pen and paper writing down the steps of his code so she could sit and work it out later!

    Now people have tickers all over the internet with xx days til my love gets home or whatever.

    We have recently moved to a new regiment who are massively security conscious. When I first got 'the rules' which include phoning the mod police if you have a guest staying and giving them their vehicle details and mr tree never going to and from work in uniform, I thought it was a bit of overkill. But when I read threads like these and realise how many people there are who are ridiculously lax in their attitudes I now think that too much is better than not enough.

    I think every partner of who is about to go through a tour with their significant other should be sent one of the Northern Ireland posting packs. I don't know if they're the same now but the one I read about 7 years ago scared the bejeesus out of me! For example, always get the long mirror provided in your quarter and check under your vehicle for explosive devices, don't take the same route every day, don't have your phone anywhere near a window (can't remember the reason for that one) don't dry uniform on the line etc etc.

    The threat seems so far removed from our own lives now that attitudes have relaxed but it's when you're off your guard that you are most vulnerable.

    *stepping down off this very high soapbox*
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    Bit scared now Special Tree!
    I am intrigued by the phone by the window thing though!

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