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    Taking a commission....

    My OH is WO1, RSM in other words in his world top of the heap but he has been asked to consider taking a commission - now it wouldnt actually happen for another year or so but he's in having his medical this afternoon.

    But l dont know - is it worth it (well l know pension wise its def worth it!) he has another 3 years left to hit 22 years, and how easy is it to make the transition from solider to officer.

    Has anyone got any experiences of the move across, what were the highs, the lows - the points to consider. Obviously, if he decided this is what he really wants to do then l shall be behind him 100% but its always good to get the view of others who have perhaps experienced the move to LE.

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    Re: Taking a commission....

    I know some that have made a real success of it (now Cols) and others who have resigned their commission asap. It really does depend upon the bloke, his attitude and the job. Sorry, it is quite difficult to say without knowing the person. All I would say is going from the top to the bottom is not always an easy move.
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    Re: Taking a commission....

    I'm with DB on this, a few of my Dad's friends did it and some were happy, some weren't.
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    Re: Taking a commission....

    I also agree with DB. my hubby has just taken his after 22 years in, and 3 years as a WO1. The money coming in each month doesn't change but like you say pension wise its a big jump. I'll let you know in a couple of years!

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    Re: Taking a commission....

    I was having a think about this. From my experiences, those LE's that stick it out go on to reach the top of their tree again aka Col but it is very different from soldiering and they are mainly tied to desks. They are also the ones who do not change. (as I said before, Dave becomes David and they take up shooting and hunting and wearing pink cords) The pension and gratuity for a Colonel would make your eyes water so if he takes it make sure he gets to that rank!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzybird
    I know some that have made a real success of it (now Cols) and others who have resigned their commission asap. It really does depend upon the bloke, his attitude and the job. Sorry, it is quite difficult to say without knowing the person. All I would say is going from the top to the bottom is not always an easy move.
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    Re: Taking a commission....

    Quote Originally Posted by dizzybird
    I was having a think about this. From my experiences, those LE's that stick it out go on to reach the top of their tree again aka Col but it is very different from soldiering and they are mainly tied to desks. They are also the ones who do not change. (as I said before, Dave becomes David and they take up shooting and hunting and wearing pink cords) The pension and gratuity for a Colonel would make your eyes water so if he takes it make sure he gets to that rank!
    I think its the tied to a desk and having to do paperwork is where he would have difficulties - he's an excellent man manager and great with the blokes but having to deal with lots of admin would be very difficult for him to adjust too! But no decision has been made and as he said it looks good on his CR at the very least!

    As for the pink cords .....

    Thanks for the replies!

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    Re: Taking a commission....

    From my OH

    LE with a regt that deploys is ferking hard work, playing soldiers at 40+ yrs just hurts!!!
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    Re: Taking a commission....

    Quote Originally Posted by bootifull
    From my OH

    LE with a regt that deploys is ferking hard work, playing soldiers at 40+ yrs just hurts!!!
    Hmmm...but your OH is a Gunner and he's quite right - and they can expect 3 tours of that sort of stuff. But some regts and corps offer very different things to their LE communities.
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    Re: Taking a commission....

    He's RLC at the moment but the commission would be with the Int Corps - though cos of his trade he would def be expected to deploy.

    I still dont know means we would have to move again - and l was happy with the fact that we are on the home run and shouldnt have another posting now... But we will see - he cant make his mind up!

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    Re: Taking a commission....

    Depending on how the Pay Office view the pension it's a no-lose situation.

    As DB said, some stick with it, others jack it in.
    Capbadge and specialist training can make a big difference, an ex-Badge of 7 took a commission and was then posted to a hat RA unit in Germany. After few months he was so ed by the attitude of both officers and ORs to work, soldiering and fitness that he resigned the commission.

    That is an extreme example but in my opinion it's a case of nothing ventured, nothing gained.
    Go for it and enjoy the pink gins.

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    After all, he can always resign his commission if he doesnt like it. Now go and get your twin set and pearls ordered, buy a chocolate lab and a volvo!
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    Re: Taking a commission....

    Quote Originally Posted by StuC
    Capbadge and specialist training can make a big difference, an ex-Badge of 7 took a commission and was then posted to a hat RA unit in Germany. After few months he was so ed by the attitude of both officers and ORs to work, soldiering and fitness that he resigned the commission.
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    Re: Taking a commission....

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiki_Fiend
    Quote Originally Posted by StuC
    Capbadge and specialist training can make a big difference, an ex-Badge of 7 took a commission and was then posted to a hat RA unit in Germany. After few months he was so ed by the attitude of both officers and ORs to work, soldiering and fitness that he resigned the commission.
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    Re: Taking a commission....

    My OH was commissioned over 2 years ago - he did find it a bit strange at first mainly because other aul sweats weren't sure how to approach him. But when he broke the ice and told them that he's the same person he always was and made it clear that he wasn't going to throw his new rank in their faces, they were fine. One or two of those who were commissioned with him did that to their old mates and found themselves in a very chilly place.

    He was a bit bored by being office-bound but carved out a niche for himself by solving all the problems other officers didn't know how or didn't want to solve - having been a Senior NCO for a long time he knew all the angles and all the excuses because he used them all himself at some point!! He ended up running the "creche" i.e. keeping an eye on the young officers. Playing soldiers at 40+ is tough but as he says "Think of the pension!".

    As for me - the officer wife thing - I don't let it bother me. I'm a nearly the same age as the Mrs Colonels but they wouldn't give me the time of day - I go to the functions I have to go to and usually end up talking to the same few well-adjusted and secure people - male & female - whatever rank. I do know that a few of the other wives feel very lonely and out of place - they were very happy with their circle of friends, mess socials and life around that and have found it very difficult to adjust to the new circle. And of course with women bitchiness has reared its head - my husband should have got the commission not yours!! - and so on.

    Overall, it has been a change both for me and him. I think it helps to accept that change is inevitable and that it can't be the way it was when he was an NCO - get over that and move on but it's been more positive than negative.

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    Re: Taking a commission....

    Hi,

    My OH commissioned from WO2 nearly five years ago, its been a brilliant move for him as many of the courses, training and workshops he has completed are transferable to civvy street.

    I can not really comment on his career before this point as I only met him just before he finished his 22 years of service and he was just about to be commissioned.

    From a socialising point of view I only do the minimum as his work is Surrey and we are in Essex, and overnight cover for the children is really difficult for us. I would say though, that I find the dos a little bit intimidating, as it seems to me that unless you are university educated or have a professional career you are not worth knowing or even having a conversation with

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    Re: Taking a commission....

    Quote Originally Posted by hankypanky
    I would say though, that I find the dos a little bit intimidating, as it seems to me that unless you are university educated or have a professional career you are not worth knowing or even having a conversation with

    Hp x
    I find that too, all the other wives that I have met so far are all teachers, nurses, etc etc, and when I say I'm a dental nurse I just get "oh!" It makes me quite cross really because it actually takes 2 years to qualify as a dental nurse and its hard work. I've also done more post-graduate courses since then so am pretty well qualified in it!
    I certainly don't plan on going to many social functions, I've got a nice little group of friends who I socialise regularly with and I'm happy with that

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    Re: Taking a commission....

    So in my experience over the last five years, the all ranks functions have been unmissable. At one function, the officers wives standing in the corner looking down their noses at everyone, were put to shame by a 22 year old wife of one of the corporals who was quite simply the nicest person there. Outstanding

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    Re: Taking a commission....

    Spare a thought for those of us who are DE Officers wives who don't quite fit the mold!

    I'm not a graduate although I have a good job/career but I don't suffer too badly with prejudice on that front. What does grip me is that where I am at the minute if you're not in and out of mums and tots or standing outside the school gates dressed as though you're about to climb Everest gossiping you're not part of the 'in crowd'. Not that I feel the need to be part of that however! I'm also sitting here with husband on a 9 month-er so am a 'spare' female which goes down like a lead balloon.

    So, I'm viewed with suspicion by my supposed peer group and (forgive me for using this phrase but I can't think how else to word it) 'other ranks' wives tend to avoid officers wives like the plague.

    It's bloody complicated this life!!

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    The whole officer-wife thing is a social mine field!! And it's the women not the men who make it like that!

    I stopped going to mess functions when my oh was overseas years ago - there were a few wives who would organise a table every year for the "single wives" to have a night out at the Xmas do or summer ball/BBQ. They were great fun, plenty of food/drink and attention from our OH's mates and that's where the issue was. The catiness from the other wives present - like we were going to steal their menfolk from under their noses at a mess function - that was it for me, I had enough of that and haven't gone to any since.

    At the last mess function we were at, I sat with the other former OR wives - now Officers wives and we had a great time watching the social carry on while being waited on hand and foot by the mess staff because we treated them like they should have been - with decency and courtesy. There was the "Jury" as we called them - the senior officers wives - you know the ones that have faces like leather from so much time on the golf course - well they scanned every woman that walked into the room - looked them up and down and then conferred for a verdict - then matched them with the officer they were with and another natter - which no doubt was passed onto husband.

    The one thing we all had in common was that we were street-wise/mess-wise enough not to give them any excuse to criticise us - and it was remarked later to my husband that we were all "well turned out" - like horses!!???

    A few days later - when the alcohol had finally left his system - I told my husband that the young officers needed a few words about dress for their companions - I have table napkins (see I'm posh already!) bigger than the dresses they wore. Course he looked at me blankly - a dress is a dress - still it would have helped.

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