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    So I had the families survey to fill in .....

    and found my husband had been home far too much this last year, time to go and see the CO to send him away far much more this year!

    Anyone else had the survey and found other abnormalities?

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    Re: So I had the families survey to fill in .....

    Yep, got that little love just after we moved. I had lots to say on the clean/utterly filthy standard of quarters on take over!

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    Re: So I had the families survey to fill in .....

    yep got that one too, sent it back yesterday. Mr Boots never goes away and I put that he should go away for the good of our marriage.He "works" within a flippin mahoosive HQ place but still have no UWO. I feel the need to become an Admin' case just to see what will happen!
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    Re: So I had the families survey to fill in .....

    I've not had it yet...sounds interesting though!

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    Re: So I had the families survey to fill in .....

    Is this something you get only when you're in quarters?
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    Re: So I had the families survey to fill in .....

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    Is this something you get only when you're in quarters?
    No, got the RN one about 4 months ago and having dutifully filled it in.... saw the serial number at the bottom and decided that it wasn't as anonymous as they would have us believe so what with answering honestly about whether we've talked about him leaving, I decided not to post it off and it's now wedged underneath a table leg doing a stirling job.
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    Re: So I had the families survey to fill in .....

    Ah, I've not had one. Shame, I'm in need of a good rant.
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    Re: So I had the families survey to fill in .....

    I got one filled in how crap it is here then didnt post it. Hubby gets surveys given to him at work as well. he particularly likes how they claim to be anonoymous (sp) then ask what is your rank single or married and trade. In this regt cos its so small it would take all of ten seconds to work out who you are just on that basic info. Hmm yes really confidential strangely bit like our welfare service too but thats a whole other story!!

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    Don't get me started on Welfare. They absolutely infuriate me.
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    Re: So I had the families survey to fill in .....

    There was a staff survey at my previous job and they went to great lengths to state how anonymous it was.....which was fine until one of my colleagues received a nice, shiny mug in the post by way of a 'thank you for completing the survey' gift!! Anonymous my arrse!
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    We had one of the questionnaires to fill in and in the end, were ultimately truthful. OH had already signed off and was "doing his resettlement"...and mysteriously got posted to Iraq

    Coincidence? I think not!

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    Re: So I had the families survey to fill in .....

    Quote Originally Posted by gentlesoul
    No, got the RN one about 4 months ago and having dutifully filled it in.... saw the serial number at the bottom and decided that it wasn't as anonymous as they would have us believe so what with answering honestly about whether we've talked about him leaving, I decided not to post it off and it's now wedged underneath a table leg doing a stirling job.
    Poor preparation.
    You need to start talking to the other families now and agree that for the next survey you all cut the serial number off the bottom of the form.

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    See other than the whinge about welfare I haven't said anything bad. OH wants to take veng (I know he's a nutter). To be honest so far our qtr's have been ok. Obviously that may change. The only other thing I complained about was that the OH hasn't bee away nearly enough in the last year, but I think he's only going to be home for 6 months in the next 12, so that makes up for it
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    Re: So I had the families survey to fill in .....

    There's a few pieces tucked away in today's papers regarding the countinuous attitudes survey for AF personnel. It doesn't make happy reading but it doesn't come as a surprise to any of us!
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    Re: So I had the families survey to fill in .....

    To help alleviate any confidentiality concerns regarding the Families Continuous Attitude Survey, this announcement has come direct from DAPS(S) - (Directorate of Army Personnel Strategy (Strategy))....

    The team that runs the FAMCAS project understand that confidentiality is of utmost importance to the spouses and civil partners that complete the survey, as professional researchers we also have an ethical obligation to ensure confidentiality is not broken. To this end we take several steps:

    · Once questionnaires are sent out the name and address list used is destroyed.

    · There are no distinct markings or ID numbers on the questionnaire.

    · From the point when the completed questionnaire leaves your hand and is put in the post it is neither touched nor accessible by military hands.

    · Data is collected by an independent and external specialist research data collection company.

    · Once data from individual questionnaires has been collected the original questionnaire is destroyed.

    · The collated raw data is only ever seen and used by the civilian research team; the team is managed by psychologists who strictly adhere to ethical guidelines including clear rules on confidentiality.

    · The research team summarise the findings of all the questionnaires and report only the views of officers and soldiers as a whole.
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    Re: So I had the families survey to fill in .....

    So why the serial number ?

    The stock answer is "to ensure no duplicate forms are registered."
    Which doesn't wash.

    People are, and with very good reason, more and more distrusting of governmental departments and feel their lives are being monitored.
    Remove the tracing system and you'll get a larger amount of respondents giving more candid answers.

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    Re: So I had the families survey to fill in .....

    According to DAPS(S) there is no serial number on the Army surveys. As gentlesoul saw a serial number on the RN survey, maybe the RN do it differently?
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    Re: So I had the families survey to fill in .....

    Having rescued it from under the table, 0***0 is the number on the back sheet at the bottom of the survey, it's next to a "bar code" (inverted commas as there are no numbers under the lines).

    The last thing I want to be is a scaremonger and should there be a flood of posts saying that they too have the number 0***0 on the rear, I will tell myself off for being a paranoid witch

    I am naturally suspicious of surveys that require so much personal details (understood that it's needed for the research), asks for rank, branch, home post code, years served etc. Even if the number at the bottom isn't a serial number, the information required makes it very easy indeed to work out who is who.

    Families of those serving spend a lot of time talking about "getting out", it's only natural but should in our case the Appointer know that you might be thinking of leaving, he will not put you into a plum position and quite frankly why should he. Those posts that are good ones, career advancing etc should only go to those who are likely to be around in 10/15 years time. Mr GS is welded to the RN and I doubt very much he'll be leaving within the next 20 years so at the moment he has some cracking jobs coming up but if having answered Q3 honestly "have you ever started a discussion with your spouse/partner/civil partner about leaving the services in the last 2 years" and the survey wasn't confidential, he could see his proposed career path disintegrate into driving a desk at Scabby Wood.

    Lose the post code request and the area in which you are living tick boxes; get rid of all numbers and bar codes. Don’t write a letter to the serving member of the family enclosing the survey, put a PDF form onto JPA to be downloaded and filled in. I understand that they are trying to make the process easier and hassle free in the hope that more people will fill it in but they might find that since we tend to like to moan, people will fill them in anyway.
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    Re: So I had the families survey to fill in .....

    Our's had a bar code too (Army) and it was for the spouse to complete not the serving personnel.
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    Re: So I had the families survey to fill in .....

    Hello Everyone,

    The Naval Families Federation has just joined Rear Party. We are always keen to know what issues our families are talking about, to ensure that we are kept up to date with hot topics, and this site seems nice and lively!

    We did a little research on confidentiality and the Families Continuous Attitude Survey on your behalf. The below information has come directly from Ipsos MORI, the company involved with the survey.

    “1.Paper questionnaires do contain unique serial numbers. This is because we scan the answers in electronically, and require serial numbers so that we can check the data file against the original paper copies for quality purposes. However, there is no possible way that Ipsos MORI or the RN/RM can link back answers to an individual via a serial number, as we do not collect name or address.

    2. We do not analyse results in such a way that people can be identified individually. Ipsos MORI is a member of the Market Research Society and is bound by its Code of Conduct not to identify individual respondent's views. Therefore, we have a rule whereby we do not look, analyse or report results separately for any group containing less than 10 respondents.

    3. Finally, I would stress that market research only works if people feel they can answer questions honestly and openly. This is only possible if they know their views are anonymous. It is not, therefore, in Ipsos MORI’s commercial interests to allow identification of personal data (not to mention the fact that we would open ourselves up to prosecution under the Data Protection Act, and by the Market Research Society).”

    We hope this puts at rest any unease about the survey, and we encourage you to take the time to complete the form as it gives you the chance to put your views across to those concerned. We take information from the survey results to our meetings with Senior Military Personnel and Government Ministers to ensure that your views are taken into account when policy is reviewed. - so we need to know your views!

    If you have any queries on this matter or would like to talk to the NFF about another issue please e-mail us on: [email protected]

    Thank you.

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