Thread: Toilet trained for school?

Thousands of children start school without being toilet trained with rising number still in nappies | Mail Online

I'm not even going to think about sitting on the fence on this one! Seriously? 4 nearly 5 year old kids still aren't toilet trained???

That is just lazy parenting!! It is not up to the school to teach them life skills, that is for parents to do.

I am honestly shocked about this! We had a foster child who really struggled due to abuse and he was still wetting at age 7 but even he managed to use a toilet at school

I thought I was a crap parent with DS still in nappies at 33 months (we were doing well and then he got poorly which cocked it up completely) . I have no intention of letting somebody else do my job for me though! Schools should refuse to take kids who aren't fully toilet trained. The odd accident amongst the really little ones is understandable, especially as they're getting used to asking to go in plenty of time but it's not right to be happening all the time. There are kids in reception at DDs school who seem to come out every day with wet uniform in a carrier bag and it's got to be awful for them, never mind the poor teachers!

Honestly, at just under 4 my ex's Nephew wouldn't even wear pull up pants, would scream if he wasn't wearing a nappy and if he was made to, he scream until it was changed back to a nappy and they did cave into him, he couldn't even go to Nursery without a parent there as they refused to clean him up.

I do blame the parents/grandparents as they were well educated people, who just pandered to every whim of the child... I often wonder whether he's grown up to be a nice teenager or not, but I have my doubts!

Shocking, my daughter is 3 at the end of the month and she is completey dry day/night. The pre school she starts in april won't take her unless she toilet trained. Schools should refuse it's not there job to toilet train, i'd feel ashamed sending my child to school in nappies.

It's not even the accidents its the fact that some parents actually sent their children into school in nappies! Not pre-school, school!

My eldest is nearly 7 and he's still not dry at night. He was for a year then he had a set back and for whatever reason he never really got back on track. We know it is partly laziness, he can spend the night at his nanny's or his mates and be dry without a drama but when he's home and relaxed he's not dry. It's taken ages but we're slowly getting more dry nights than wet ones. that drives me crazy though, honestly if he didn't have school I would wake him every hour if needs be to send him to the toilet but it's more important that hes had a good nights sleep and is alert for school the next day. That is something that is only in the privacy of our own home and no-one need know but i still find it embarrassing and often feel like I'm failing as a parent because of it.

The thought of either of my boys going to school without being toilet trained it's completely alien to me. I would be absolutely mortified.

mine is three, not toilettrained....she uses the toilet in nursery tho , has training pants on and last thing at night uses our toilet....this summer she'll be in knickers outside......fingers crossed

I think that as the nappies get better and more absorbent then the child never has that wet or dirty feeling until the nappy is about to fall off. They are literally unaware that they have done anything.

I played it a completely different way. Just as I was starting to toilet train my oldest, there was an item on the news about a nappy factory had burnt down and there three local Fire Brigades had been sent to extinguish the flames. At the time Fireman Sam was all the rage. I taped it and showed it to my son later the same day, with a "Oh No the Nappy Factory has burnt down" and a shrug of the shoulders. The next day I posted in a packet a pack of training pants through the door and enclosed a letter from the factory which explaining how sorry the factory was that my child could not have nappies anymore, and enclosed was a packet of pants with Fireman Sam on. Worked a treat.

Perhaps I could market a DVD boxset with ready-to-post knickers or pants as a business venture!!

TLC x

Haha that's ingenious!

My eldest loved potty training, loved big boy pants and everything. The hardest bit with him was that he went on the potty then stood up and tipped the bugger all over the carpet!

We started buying little tree cheap nappies. We wanted him to get used to feeling wet/dirty and it seems to work. He is now getting to a point where he takes his nappy off after a couple of wee's. Only trouble is he's started demanding to have a new nappy put on straight away so as soon as we're in the new house he'll be going into pull-ups for outdoors and pants for inside before he gets too reliant on a nappy.

I might be a little bit mad but I love potty training, I think it's so much fun and if you can keep your sense of humour when things go wrong it can be hilarious.

Littlest Gonzo is toying with the potty idea at the moment. What she does at the moment is sit on the potty, get off and go and wee in a corner!

Bigger little Gonzo was a nightmare to train, was dry at night before he was dry during the day and literally about a week before pre-school he got it.

Originally Posted by Gonzo

Littlest Gonzo is toying with the potty idea at the moment. What she does at the moment is sit on the potty, get off and go and wee in a corner!

Bigger little Gonzo was a nightmare to train, was dry at night before he was dry during the day and literally about a week before pre-school he got it.

DS is a corner wee-er. He was doing really well, asking to use the potty or the toilet after Xmas but has reverted back to nappies all the time since being full of cold and not himself. OH managed to get him into pants last weekend but as soon as he was by himself with me again he refused and got himself really worked up. DD didn't click with toilet training until about a week before her 3rd Birthday when she was suddenly dry day and night so not stressing about DS too much atm. He's not due his nursery place til Sept so have loads of time to crack it in the summer. Hoping that when the baby arrives he will decide that he's a big boy and that will help.

The root of the story is missing - why is there a belief that it's up to the school to toilet train? Where's that come from? Certainly not from any Health Visitor or childcare professional I know of.

Lazy parents making excuses, that's all it is.

Originally Posted by WhiteRose

The root of the story is missing - why is there a belief that it's up to the school to toilet train? Where's that come from? Certainly not from any Health Visitor or childcare professional I know of.

Lazy parents making excuses, that's all it is.

It seems to be an extension of the attitude I have seen before of "nursery/childminder will do it so why should I bother?". One of my old workmates freely admitted that she wouldn't know where to start with training since the childminder and her Mum took care of it all with her daughter. Even though DD was in childcare, it was my job to take the lead with it all. Some parents just act like it's all beneath them though. God forbid they should have to deal with accidents and tears. It wouldn't surprise me if children were in pants at childcare then stuck in a nappy at home by lazy parents who can't be bothered.

My eldest 2 were both dry day and night by 2 1/2 and my 3rd will be no different I don't see how any parent would send their child to school wetting themselves anyway its disgraceful.

Ah, but what of those nurseries who point blank refuse to have a toilet training child in their group? I remember one place we were looking at for my daughter insisted all children up to the age of 2 wore pull ups. Considering she'd been dry during the day since she was around 18 months I told them to ram it and used a nursery which worried about the child and not having to move their own fat lazy arses.

Originally Posted by bodger

Ah, but what of those nurseries who point blank refuse to have a toilet training child in their group? I remember one place we were looking at for my daughter insisted all children up to the age of 2 wore pull ups. Considering she'd been dry during the day since she was around 18 months I told them to ram it and used a nursery which worried about the child and not having to move their own fat lazy arses.

That's shocking. Surely it makes life easier for them not having to do nappy changes? I've heard of nurseries stopping kids moving up to preschool without being trained (and rightly so) but never the other way round. Morons.

They had a mass nappy change at certain times of the day whether the kids needed it or not. I dread to think what they would have done if a child had filled it before the lazy witches were ready. In other words, they couldn't be arsed with taking the kids to the loo as and when because it'd disturb their lolling on the floor like beached whales gossiping time.

I remember using the toilets in nursery so think I must have learned quite early. All I really remember is that my Mum bought a potty that played music when you weed in it! And Thomas the Tank Engine was all the rage so she covered it in stickers of Thomas and co. I reckon TLC has got the right idea! Make it fun for them and they'll do it. I don't think schools should have to deal with that, that isn't what they're there for. Absolutely agree it should be parents teaching life skills!

I haven't to say my daughters nursery has given me alot of help with toilet training her, and she still has accidents but i always carry extra trouser, knickers with me everywhere i go. She wouldn't do training pants. Alot of the wifes helped me as well giving advise. It all about support sometimes.